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Afghanistan faces 'regional war' if NATO troops go
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Washington (AFP) Nov 17, 2011

Taliban peace talks have failed: ex-Afghan minister
Washington (AFP) Nov 17, 2011 - Afghanistan's former interior minister on Thursday said efforts to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table had failed and warned that those who have renounced violence were not the main threat.

"I don't have any evidence that this has happened," Mohammad Haneef Atmar told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) think tank in Washington, alluding to whether peace talks had produced results.

"Of around 30,000 insurgents, only eight percent have reconciled so far -- and 99 percent of them are not from the south," he said, referring to Afghanistan's most violent region and the Taliban's spiritual homeland.

"Frankly speaking, it does not work. The eight percent that are reconciled, most of them are not genuine insurgents, particularly not from the regions that matter."

Burhanuddin Rabbani, a former president of Afghanistan who had been given the Herculean task of seeking peace with the Taliban, was assassinated in Kabul on September 20 by a suicide bomber wearing explosives in his turban.

The bomber had claimed to be a peace emissary from the Taliban leadership, whom Afghan authorities blamed for the attack. After the killing, President Hamid Karzai said the country would review how to advance the peace process.

But Atmar, interior minister between 2008 and 2010 and who personally held talks with Taliban leaders during that time, said the strategy would continue to fail unless Pakistan reversed its policy of giving sanctuary to insurgents.

He also said that many leaders of the Afghan Taliban had placed their families in Pakistan because they believed they were safer there.

The United States has increasingly been looking for a negotiated end to the Afghan conflict given that the insurgency remains virulent more than 10 years after the September 11 attacks prompted American forces to invade the country.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last month urged Pakistan to take action within "days and weeks" on dismantling Afghan militant havens and encouraging the Taliban into peace talks.


Afghanistan risks falling into civil and regional war if all US and international troops leave as planned by the end of 2014, the conflict-wracked state's former interior minister warned on Thursday.

Mohammad Haneef Atmar, speaking in Washington, also said Kabul's efforts to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table, which the United States sees as crucial to a peace settlement, had failed to attract hard-core insurgents.

Atmar, who served as interior minister between 2008 and 2010, said it was wrong to assume that violence would taper off after a scheduled 2014 pullout of NATO forces, and that 20,000-30,000 foreign soldiers should remain.

"With 450,000, we have a problem at the moment," he told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank, referring to the combined numbers of Afghan security forces and international troops.

"We are making progress in Helmand and Kandahar but we are not making progress in the east and southeast. Why do we believe that after more years Afghans alone will be able to manage that problem?" he said.

The United States has increasingly been looking for a negotiated end to the Afghan conflict given that the insurgency remains virulent more than 10 years after the September 11 attacks prompted American forces to invade the country.

A US troop surge was credited for improving security in the troubled south but Pentagon officials have said President Barack Obama's administration is contemplating scaling back Afghan combat operations much earlier than planned.

Atmar said Afghanistan would only succeed if security gains in hotspots such as Kandahar are built upon and forecast that the Kabul government could fall.

"Why would it fall? If there is a premature drawdown of troops, if there is a significant reduction of economic assistance... and if the vacuum created is to be filled by regional actors," he said, alluding to Afghanistan's neighbors Pakistan, Iran, Russia and India.

"If these things happen we will fall. There will be a perfect scenario for a regional wargame and it will be a proxy-led civil war in Afghanistan which would lead to the disintegration of Afghanistan," he said, noting that such conditions would provide more safe havens for anti-American insurgents.

Atmar, who was also education minister between 2006 and 2008, said the resulting security vacuum would lead the Afghan national army and police to become "factionalized" and loyalty would shift from the state to warlords.

"A significant part of Afghanistan would be controlled by the insurgents and that would provide safe haven to Al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba and to all the other groups that do not have problems with Afghans alone," he added.

Lashkar-e-Taiba is the Pakistan-based insurgent group fighting against Indian control in Kashmir and has been blamed by India for deadly violence, most notably the November 2008 attacks in Mumbai that killed 166 people.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last month urged Pakistan to take action within "days and weeks" on dismantling Afghan militant havens and encouraging the Taliban into peace talks, which Atmar said had so far failed.

"Of around 30,000 insurgents, only eight percent have reconciled so far -- and 99 percent of them are not from the south," he said.

"Frankly speaking, it does not work."

Peace initiatives have stalled since ex-Afghanistan president Burhanuddin Rabbani, who had been given the Herculean task of negotiating with insurgents, was killed by a suicide bomber on September 20.

Michael O'Hanlon, an expert on Afghanistan and Pakistan at the Brookings think tank in Washington, described Atmar as "one of the three or four best (people) that Afghanistan has to offer."

"I take everything he says very seriously," O'Hanlon told AFP. "That said, I don't believe our force would have to be quite as large," as 20,000 to 30,000 troops. "But it would have to be more than 10,000 for a while," he said.

Afghanistan and the United States are currently negotiating a strategic partnership that will govern bilateral relations after NATO combat forces -- there are currently 140,000 in the war-torn state -- withdraw in 2014.

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US drone strike kills four in Pakistan: officials
Miranshah, Pakistan (AFP) Nov 17, 2011 - US drones fired missiles into a compound in northwest Pakistan where militants gathered Thursday, killing at least four in North Waziristan district on the Afghan border, officials said.

The Pakistani officials said unmanned American aircraft fired four missiles into the building in the Razmak area, 60 kilometres (40 miles) south of the region's main town Miranshah in the Taliban and Al-Qaeda-infested badlands.

Officials were divided on the death toll, with three different sources claiming the numbers of dead were variously four, five and seven.

The fresh strike came one day after US missiles destroyed a Pakistani Taliban base in South Waziristan, killing up to 18 militants including possible Al-Qaeda fighters in the deadliest such reported strike in three months.

"The target was a compound. The militants were in a room that was hit. Four were killed, three were wounded," said a senior Pakistani official.

"Four missiles were fired on the compound in Badamshah village," he added.

US officials say Pakistan's tribal belt provides sanctuary to Taliban fighting for 10 years against US troops in Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda groups plotting attacks on the West and Pakistani Taliban who routinely bomb Pakistan.

North Waziristan is the most notorious of all Pakistan's seven semi-autonomous tribal districts and has been a major focus of US pressure on the Islamabad government to take sterner action against Afghan insurgents.

Thursday's strike was the 64th reported in Pakistan's tribal belt so far this year, according to an AFP tall.

The United States refuses to discuss drone strikes publicly, but the programme has dramatically increased as the Obama administration looks to withdraw all foreign combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

The Pakistani government is understood to assent to the programme despite popular opposition at home, where anti-Americanism is frequently exploited by nationalist politicians and the conservative religious right.

Pakistan-US ties deteriorated sharply this year over a unilateral American raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May and over accusations that Pakistani intelligence was involved in a September siege of the US embassy in Kabul.

At talks in Islamabad last month, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called on Pakistan to take action within "days and weeks" on dismantling Afghan militant havens and encouraging the Taliban into peace talks.

On Wednesday, three suicide bombers blew themselves up in their car on the sea front in Pakistan's largest city of Karachi, killing two policemen when they were intercepted.



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US drone strike kills four in Pakistan: officials
Miranshah, Pakistan (AFP) Nov 17, 2011
US drones fired missiles into a compound in northwest Pakistan where militants gathered Thursday, killing at least four in North Waziristan district on the Afghan border, officials said. The Pakistani officials said unmanned American aircraft fired four missiles into the building in the Razmak area, 60 kilometres (40 miles) south of the region's main town Miranshah in the Taliban and Al-Qaed ... read more


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